"Yes.....

So, what's your point? ;-D"

That's the problem, LH. I don't have a point to make. I too am seriously fucked because I actually understand you and Spaw.

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I have asked people to leave my place when they argue about religion. Your--whoever 'you' is--have a right to your opinion, and along with that goes the right to keep it to yourself. In my place you abide by that rule or bugger off. That rule applies to all my friends regardless their religious beliefs or lack thereof. Basically, my religious beliefs are none of anyone's business, and anyone's beliefs to do with religion are none of mine. The single exception I make is for people who say grace before meals. If no one or anyone wants to say a blessing that's ok with me. The one proviso is that it be short/brief. You can offer prayers to God, Allah, The Great Spirit, etc. I'm a very simple guy. But NO editorializing in the name of your particular Kahuna. Un point c'est tout