Pete from somewherein the stars differentiates between those he sees ad disrespectable and those who aren't. We are all still non believers mate, and we obviously will burn in your Hell. Now, doesnt that make you feel better?

I'm not sure Iona is worth arguing with, as actually reading the diatribe and illogical waffle, it seems irrational and it is not fun, maybe even cruel to bait people with problems that I suspect none of us are qualified to deal with.

You know, relative to this kick about fun, it is fairly recently that it hit me what "contemplate the navel" is referring to.

The bible by the way, is referred to a lot here. Which one? What was originally written and at what time was the collection of writings over a few centuries compiled and "God" told us to read it? And in which language?

Piffle and waffle. What is worse s the time and effort by supposedly educated people in twisting it in all directions to suit their version of oppression.

It has many verses that many take comfort from, and that is the issue. Society will never shed the repressive claptrap of religion whilst decent people need it as a crutch.

So we're all buggered, even the non Catholic ex alter boys.