Pronunciation: Cathal - you leave out the T, and make the a's short, that's more or less right - and Brugha is pronounced the same way as the English name, Brewer.

It's all very complicated with Dev. My father, who was in a flying column at the time, on the Republican side, admired both Devalera and Michael Collins. He used to say Collins was shot because he was coming over to the Republican side. The relevance of that isn't whether it was true or not, it's in the fact that that was how a young Irregular at the time fighting against the Staters in South Tipperary saw it.

Whatever Dev did that can be criticised, he wasn't a traitor any more than any other rebel who in face of realities has had to accept less than what they'd have hoped for. "For everything there is a Time..."

And now is the time for making peace.