"...practicing something fifty or sixty times to "get it right" means that you "thought" you had it wrong that many times."

If I'm "buggering about at home" I might practice something until I can get it right.

If I'm preparing for a public performance (the definition of which can be debated) I try to practice until I can't get it wrong.Big difference.

Will F, I like that you understand that improvisation and practice are not mutually exclusive!

-Glenn