Bobert, I was just kidding. The only time I ever felt pain from a needle stick was years back at a hospital in Edmonton. It was for a blood gas test and they had to dig for a vein in the middle of my arm real near the wrist. They tried once with two people holding my arm, but they had to call two more. I told 'em to strap my arm to a solid chair THEN put two guys on the arm and one on the other with the last guy holding my body still. Jaysus, son, nobody got roughed up but it was close. Hurt like the Dickens. However, Jeri's right about after the surgery's done. At least you know that pain'll go away--after a few months. LOL