Gern - your mistake wasn't in voting for Clinton but in trusting, not just him but any poitician. How can you trust someone who spends millions to get a job that only pays $200,000 a year? The best comment I ever heard was when someone said you have to identify the people who want the job and then make sure they cannot get it.

As far as control of the debates is concerned the last people who should have any say in the matter are the candidates. The league of Women Voters should schedule a debate on their own terms and dare the candidates to not show up. And clearly indicate their spoiled child behavior if they object to any of the conditions.

If there is going to be any change in the system t will not be done by the politicians. Neither of the monolithic parties would start such a thing and the third parties will never have the power. Only a revolution by the people and of the people would force such a thing. Until theInternet came along such a thing would have been impossible but now maybe there is a chance. This needs more thought.

And what are the foreigners (even Canadians!) doing on this thread???

JUST KIDDING!!!! YOU ARE WELCOME TO ADD YOUR VOICES TOO.