Eiseley, I know that problem, but as it happens, as of last week I'm plumb out of teenagers. We had a little birthday dinner here last weekend and the kids examined, dissected, but generally consumed a small gourmet cake I picked up at the high end grocery. I guess I should have gone with the tried and true Betty Crocker box mix and a can of frosting. Or made it real special with Fluffy White Frosting.