With no offense to anyone intended, I feel that I should point out that even for someone with intimate familiarity with the circle of 5ths, it is hard to make sense out of most of the discussion here.

For anyone that doesn't understand the circle, and would like to, I advise that you simple Google it, and skim the various results until you find one that is easy for you to understand.

As to this thread, I can only offer Dante's famous admonition "Abandon hope all ye who enter here."

(And I am waiting for Jack Campin to suggest that the circles of Hell are better represented as ladder)