The problem of course is the internet, before the internet no one in the USA new who was singing their songs and copying their stuff in the UK and wider world, nor did they care so long as they were making enough money. As for China, a company I occasionally work for outsourced their founding and iron casting work to China, they sent out their patented mould patterns and shortly after noticed the castings were coming back minus the company logo, further research found them being sold through the internet at a third of the price that the company was selling them at. I think that they have been hoisted by their own petard, had they kept production in the UK they would be able to manage the products. The way music is listened to and the way music is stored has been through a very rapid revolution which has destroyed the very lucrative parts of that industry which is trying to hang on for dear life and this use of the extradition treaty by these people stinks it is an abuse of it's original intention. Oh and, Bert, I believe definition of theft is to permanently deprive someone of their property, I think a lesser crime of using without the owners consent or maybe not since the electricity is technically paid for by the plaintiff they haven't used anything other than how the electricity is arranged. Maybe a fee ought to be levied on electronic listening equipment.....no........ we get the PRS in equity again!