Don, I think those are positions they create arguments to support. "Truth in Genesis" is a leader in assembling and disseminating these arguments. Here is and example. Bill D., with your respect for logic, I urge you to skip the rest of this post.

http://www.truthingenesis.com/Star_Distance.html

>>Astronomers have observed that about every 30 years a star dies and explodes into a supernova (ICR September, 1998). If the universe were billions of years old there should be several hundred million supernovas; however, astronomers have observed less than 300 supernovas in the universe. This limited number of supernovas shows that the universe is less than 10,000 years old, just like the bible says. <<