Greg, stick to attacking political ideas, political attitudes, political policies, and stuff like that...and stop attacking other individuals and we will have no argument whatsoever.

We both oppose the idea of slavery utterly. And we both always have done so and always shall do so.

But you don't just go after the bad ideas. You personally denigrate other human beings on an individual basis. You personally attack other people. You do it a great deal on this forum to other posters. You do it in history to other individuals. You personalize your attacks toward other people and demonize them because they were part of some cause, but you didn't walk in their shoes, and you don't really know who they are or what they had to face or what their personal character was. You stereotype them into cardboard figures that you can spit upon to vent your ill will. That's what I object to. That is virtually always what bothers me about the stuff you say, it takes the form of personal attacks on other individuals.

I do not in any way object to your condemnation of the South's practice of slavery. It deserves condemnation. I reiterate that if you had been born a Southerner in the USA and had lived through the events of that time, you would probably have willingly fought for the Confederacy...for a variety of totally obvious patriotic reasons...just like almost everyone else in the South did. This would not have made you an evil person who wants to enslave people.

If you don't think that could have possibly happened in your case, well, then I think you just lack the imagination to put yourself in another time and place...and to consider how you might have been affected by the conditions all around you at that time.

You're not perfect either, Greg. So don't expect other people to be. Have a little regard for those you disagree with on something...they're not 3-horned monsters just because they don't agree with you on every single point of dogma.