"...seems to me that scientists when they affirm darwinism are doing the same as creationists.

No, Pete... it really is NOT the same thing. "Darwinism" is not some simple set-in-stone, unwavering 'rule'. Most would not even use the term Darwinism, except as a historical reference. They call themselves 'scientists', and the basic principles of evolution are one outcome of allowing the discoveries OF science to guide their ever changing picture of the history of Earth... and the universe in general.

Saying "I accept Darwinism..or'evolution'" is very different from saying "I accept the Bible as literal truth." They are two forms of 'accepting' that are totally different way of thinking!! Really!

If science found data (like that Don T just noted) that showed only a few thousand years of change, they WOULD accept it and compare it with dates in the Bible and say..."hmmmmmm.."... but when creationists see scientific data, they say "Can't be...it disagrees with the Bible, and my preacher/father/family etc. TOLD me the the Bible is totally true!"

Pete... ALL the information/stories/metaphysics in the Bible was put there by **men**, and translated and interpreted by men... for several thousand years. MEN told each other that God 'inspired' it...and those men 'mostly' believed it... but today you don't automatically believe everything or every story other **men** tell you.

There 'may' have been a god who started all this complex universe... and I do not try to 'prove' otherwise.... but if such a god wants me - and others - to know certain details and behave in certain ways, he needs to come around more often and say so a bit more clearly......