Just want to cut and paste Sailor Jack's wonderful comment to me a few posts up;

"Wow Ian you do have a belief system if you believe that your opinions are novel enough and well informed enough that is is worth pete's time to debate you. You are just looking for a chance to drop more jibes and little insults such as "fairy stories" what theory do you think you are proving other than "some atheists act like jerks."

Seriously, for many atheists, Bill D for example, Atheism is not a religion. For you it clearly is and you are an evangelist modeled after St. Paul."

No reason, just want to read it again. I thought it was wonderful.

sniff.. Never been told I had an opinion before. Or at least, I never realised denying fiction as fact was to have an opinion. I thought an opinion was either to believe, deny, agree or refute. You can have such thoughts on the quality of fiction I suppose, but to say that my use of words such as fairy stories is to have an opinion on them?

I thought Sailor Jack started this thread by asking if creationism taught as fact holds kids back, and then reckons I am insulting creationists by pointing out I reckon that they are!

I wonder if pete is slowly getting a convert to his delusions here? After all, he told Jack he agrees with his assessment of me.

Me? I just want to be loved really. All this pointing out that reality may have a place in this debate is just a sounding board for me to use words like superstition, fairy story (ok, phrases too) and rational.

In case anybody hasn't noticed, although enough people have pointed it out; It is absurd to debate science and superstition as equal sides of an argument. If you refute evidence, you have to provide evidence or contrary indications that could lead to evidence. With regard to evolution, the big book of fairy stories as our nautical friend seems to to have an issue with, is not evidence. Fiction is not evidence. Superstition is not evidence.

Mind you, without a comfort blanket, things can get kind of lonely I suppose. So THAT's why I want to be loved!

Keep banging the rocks together guys...