Al, this really is not on. I've no idea who the guy was or what his behaviour was prior to the arm twisting, or even why he was arrested. What I do know is that these matters are irrelevant to the present issue. The police are trained, and paid, to apply professional standards under all circumstances and to uphold the law. They are not paid or trained to illegally virtually wrench a suspect's arm off. And in case you had forgotten, all the guy did was ask for a chair.

What's more, over and above the offence he was arrested for, if his behaviour during arrest and detention consituted further breaches of the law, then thoe further breaches should have been dealt with as part of due process. This was an act of blatant brutality, nothing more and nothing less.

I've never been to a football match in my life, but I'm well aware that spitting at someone is an offence. I have though been on a great many demonstrations in my life. I have never seen anyone spit at a police officer, but I can tell you now that anyone so doing would be arrested on the spot and charged with assault.