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Thread #144682   Message #3350429
Posted By: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
13-May-12 - 06:00 PM
Thread Name: BS: Young Earth Creationism Eureka--Contd...
Subject: RE: BS: YEC Eureka--Contd...
it seems to me an illogical question.you may deny his existence but if at all admit the existence of God then his eternality excludes anyone/thing creating him.i'm not sure if you are trying to prohibit me using the bible,don,or claiming it wont give an answer.either way biblical revelation supports it and logic suggests it.
lets suppose there is no deity .we have a creation[or whatever you call everything]and no maker.it just happened!.IMO that is a faith position more incredible than accepting a creator.
even starting with substance and intelligence, life has not been spawned from non life as far as i know.how much less when there was nothing.
but there is life and that is to be expected if God is.

penny-i am aware that it is not just strength that favours survival in natural selection but neither does that exclude it,does it?
and it still seems to me that hitler,stalin etc who were darwin believers were not inconsistent with that belief;even though darwin would not have approved of their atrocities.might he though have thought some "races" nearer to ape descendants than say whites.i understand that slavery was justified on those grounds also?.

bill-science personified ,at least as far as origins is concerned is a myth.people do science.people with presuppositions ,agendas,already formed opinions from other disciplines not their own,etc.
creationists are upfront about their presuppositions.the data is interpreted accordingly as is the evolutionists.