You set of dozy buggers.......

You realise, of course, that the ultimate conclusion of this debate is that pete will have won and those who are getting exasperated in getting him to see reason will have been converted by him? I'll start a whip round for some tambourines.

It's how they do it, you know. They wear you down. Works now and has been working for 2,000 years so they have it down to an art form.

Pointing and laughing, the only cure.