yup, I've even felt the point in my head is lost in this thread, or the head of this point is lost in this joint, & maybe the loss of this thread is caused by the point of my head, or might be the loss of my head was due to my response to this thread. Sorry, I don't get like this often, something got into me & it was giggling, couldn't get it out. OK, I passes quickly out at late night, need sleep, bye, bye. Barry