Penny,

I can add fax machines to the list too. They have their women wear handkerchiefs on their heads and someone once told me they were Plymouth Brethren, but having Wiki'd the brethren, I don't think they may be.

No matter, it was a throwaway observation that I used to have a customer where the bloke in the sales office had to go home each lunchtime and collect the faxes that came in, as his boss wouldn't have them on the premises, and when I noted mobile phones added to the list of things not permitted on the premises, (how the hell their customers put up with the silly notices all over is beyond me...) I mentally made the connection with where my brother when he was an aid worker in Tanzania told me how Masai communities had been inadvertently transformed by the mobile phone masts he and others had originally objected to.

My point was that debunking science may be fun if it gets in the way of your club rules, but when you force your rules on others (the teaching of bollocks in schools?) cause and effect come into play.

Jesus didn't raise anybody (Lazar.. something? Help me someone clever?) . We had to wait for science to give us advances in intensive care before such things could be contemplated!