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Thread #136420   Message #3358641
Posted By: Little Hawk
03-Jun-12 - 12:27 AM
Thread Name: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
Don Firth - "Many times I have asked Goofus which of the viable candidates he prefers"

Don, at the presidential level the viable candidates now are only Obama and Romney. Period. It's down to those two. GfS clearly would prefer to have neither of them as his president...nor the parties that have selected them. Does that make him "wrong"?

It only makes him wrong if he still believed in the old traditional 2-party system in your country, and he obviously doesn't. As long as enough of your people still believe in the old, divisive 2-party system (the equivalent of believing in the Great Oz or the tooth fairy to solve their problems) then the sorry farce will go on...you'll have more wars, more devastation of the public sector and the unions, more ludicrous obstruction in
Congress, more money given to bankers and corporate CEOs, and less for the rest of you.

And I expect it will go on... I have not a shred of hope that either Obama or Romney will stop it from going on. I think they're working for the same corporate and banking sponsors...though for opposing parties who in truth wish each other nothing but failure.

And that's why I'm deeply cynical about the whole situation down there in the USA, and would not choose to live there...or frankly...even to visit there. Not any more.

Now, if GfS could stomach backing either Obama or Romney...either the Democrats or the Republicans...then he'd be obliged to pick one of them as his preference, wouldn't he? But he can't stomach either one of them...so why the hell should he be obliged to back one of them just because you want him to?

If he doesn't believe in either of them, he can't back either of them without being, essentially, a hypocrite.

I was very happy about Obama winning in 2008, because I had hopes he might turn out to be a real progressive...and I had no hopes that McCain would be anything but dreadful. Well, Obama has not turned out to be a progressive, I'm deeply disappointed in him (while still glad McCain wasn't elected)...but I cannot in good conscience put my faith in Obama any longer. Nor in Romney, needless to say. I regard them both as meaningless cyphers...faces pasted on top of a shadowy ruling system of bankers and businessmen that gets what it wants, regardless.

If I were an American, that would leave me no one to vote for...on the presidential level. That doesn't mean it would leave me no one to vote for on the more local or state level...that's a different matter. You sometimes get some pretty good candidates a bit farther down the chain of command. I'd vote for whoever I believed in at those lower levels...regardless of their party affiliation. It's the parties themselves that I don't believe in. They are what has finally destroyed truly representative government in the USA, because they've become mere creatures of a small, wealthy elite and they are NOT serving your general public! This is proven again and again, no matter which party you elect, they betray you. Don't you get that? How can you continue having any faith in either one of those 2 parties after what they've done to you in the last 60 or so years?