I can't disagree with that Den. France ought to have been the better team because they had more talent at their disposal. I think that most teams who play against teams who they know are better than themselves sit back and defend. A part of me says this is cheating, but this has long been a part of the game. England were lucky not to be well beaten, but they did play with a fair bit of guts and determination to get a draw. We have often seen better players do less and lose! All credit to them for sticking to it last night.