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Thread #145806   Message #3374638
Posted By: Gibb Sahib
10-Jul-12 - 05:57 PM
Thread Name: Lloyd & MacColl's Sea Song LPs
Subject: RE: Lloyd & MacColl's Sea Song LPs
Cheers for the additional info, fellas.


Here's what I'm calling batch #2

1. The Black Ball Line (1957)

It's just a couple years after the first set, but in addition to Colcord and Doerflinger, the boys have seemed to add RR Terry to their library of source texts. They also seem to have interacted with Hugill by this time. "Stormalong" clinches that argument. The earmarks in "Ranzo" suggest Hugill, too, though they certainly did not use his melody. There is the possibility that Hugill borrowed their lyrics later on, but given the "Stormalong" evidence, why go there?

MacColl is taking the lead on shanties here for the first time. His renditions appear to be more "by the book" than Lloyd's; "Black Ball Line" is pretty much verbatim after Colcord.

Black Ball Line
After Colcord.

Reuben Ranzo
Melody conforms closely to Doerflinger, but lyrics have earmarks of Hugill's version.

A Hundred Years Ago.
Compares well with Terry's (1926) presentation.
The line "I promised her a golden ring/ she promised me that little thing" might be one of Lloyd's lines that Hugill didn't care for.

Stormalong (way, hey, mister stormalong…)
So close to Hugill's SfSS, and no other versions found. Earmarks suggest Hugill taught this.

Sally Racket
Melody as in Moby-Dick film's "Hill and Gully Rider". Lloyd may have spliced in words from Terry's "Cheerl'y Man" (as Hugill did also do). Overall, not too much different than what Hugill got from Harding.

Other songs:
Do Me Ama
The Handsome Cabin Boy
The Gauger