Not to put too fine a point on it, olddude, but people have been killed--on the spot--with a .22. Also a .25.

Granted, if one expects to get into a gun battle, you want to have some substantial firepower. But if one carries a concealed weapon as a general rule, like a credit card just in case you might need it, something in the way of a "back-up gun" such as a Walther PPK .380 doesn't put a suspicious bulge under your coat. And in most cases, a .380 jacketed hollow-point will do the trick.

Have you ever seen what a .380 jacketed hollow-point will do to a canteloupe?

Don Firth

P. S. Hell, man, if I knew I was going to get into a gun battle, I'd carry a bazooka!

P. S. My former friend who damned near killed a mutual friend and got himself arrested for drawing his .45 automatic in a situation that did not warrent deadly force, used to laugh at my Walther PPK. Called it a "cap gun." Until he saw what it did to the canteloupe. An explosion of orange haze and a few shards of rind.

Even he had to agree that would do the job.