Keith, Jim, I can see that you are both very passionate about this issue. You have pretty much had the run of this thread. I probably should know more so I could decide where I fall on the issue. Embarrassingly enough, I have not done this. However, I think that no matter who your heroes are in this, it is a human tragedy on a large scale.

But I doubt if either of you is going to convince the other. And I cannot begin to sift through the whole thread. YMMV.

Saul