Sorry Steve....my old eyes are not as good as they were...but I'm sure you know what I meant?

Re Belgrano....I think John is probably correct....I used to get all fired up about what i saw as a war crime.....but look at the even greater atrocities that were to come, under subsequent governments both Labour and Conservative.

We dont even blink an eye wnen the Chief of Staff kills thousands from his chair in the Oval office.

and this is only the beginning.