Aye and socialism is inseparable from Stalinist pogroms and oppression by your weird argument.

GBS has credibility, so it sounds far better attributing it to Ken Dodd, who at least said it as I quoted it. Bugger credibility. Your comments rarely have any, so why should I be any different?

Capitalism and socialism are both tools or enablers. It is the finished product you should be interested in. If capitalism can raise the funds for a social programme, or socialism can coerce the funds for a social programme, you get a social programme. I may denounce Bliar for being starry eyed with Republican Americans, I may denounce Broon for fiscal incompetence in his early years, but the philosophy, spearheaded by the Dark Lord Mandy, is a sound one. Have a welfare state, equality etc etc but be honest about how you fund it.

Th*tcher however liked the enabling bits about capitalism, but wished to destroy the society that could have benefited from it. I'm not sure this lot are much more enlightened for that matter. Benevolent charity is not the same as equal opportunity, but she tried to use it as an alternative and this lot carry it on.

But for a businessman such as yourself to decry capitalism, all I can say is that the British self loathing syndrome is alive and kicking in Kent....