Catspaw....I am not at all surprised that you find my post "nonsense", you seem to think that way about everything I write, but I am truly amazed at the "racial overtones", would you be kind enough to explain this to me, as it appears to be nonsensical?

Penny seems to believe that any woman who chooses to fulfill her primary natural function and bear children, is nothing more than an incubator, performing a service for men.....with no rights?

Well I could take her to a thousand mothers in this area who would tell her exactly what they think of that piece of nonsense.
Women here are proud of the children they produce and nurture, fortunately, the vast majority here still support the family structure, tho' a change is afoot.
The "incubators" are the young girls who have decided to follow the "liberal" ideology, not for "men", but to improve their living standards. In fact men become redundant after insemination as benefits would be cut if they lived together.
Young single mothers in this area are automatically given a house rent free and benefits which increase with the number of children produced.....it is a massive scam and is happening all over the UK.

Of course the kids can hardly be blamed for what they do, there is simply nothing else for them but a life of poverty....living with often impoverished parents, without any kind of meaningful job and with the spectre of drugs all around.

Jim Carroll is wrong. I know exactly what I am writing about.