So... I guess it takes a responsible gun owner who is also an advocate of gun ownership to start the process. I don't really wanna do this but after ten years of these threads that go nowhere, I'd rather TRY to do it than defend and chastise.

Bobert said... "Let's talk."

Okay, let's talk. But, frist, I have a couple of things to say.

Fuck the NRA and (sorry, but... hey?) fuck anyone who says they are idiots who cannot be forced to accept reasonable laws. The next post that says the NRA CANNOT be forced to accept reasonable gun control... I am gone in 60 seconds.

Fuck the antis who say all guns have to go. They are to be ignored and the reasons are obvious to anyone who has read the threads and also has an IQ in double digits.

I see NO reason why the Mudcatters herein cannot begin a dialogue which will lead to getting the job done... unless you are the bunch of pussies I accused you of being. Stand up and DO something about the problem or... yeah, I am gonna say it AGAIN... shut the fuck up.

Now, let's talk. But first, I have a request.

I would like everyone who has posted to this thread and who posts to this thread to read
EVERY FUCKING WORD OF EVERY PAGE FOUND ON THIS LINK.

You can cry foul all day long but if ya can't tell the NRA what yer gonna shove up their ass yer just cluckin and yer gonna get plucked.

So... any readers willin ta read about an excellent (I have some BIG problems with some of the legislation and I know it's gotta be tweaked to get by in the good ol USA but that will come in future discussions) piece of legislation? If so, we can continue talking and marshall the collective resources of Mudcatters to start a movement for responsible gun ownership in the USA. Seriously, Mudcat has everything needed to get the job done except, it SEEMS to me, someone to LEAD the process.

So, if any of you are serious about your concerns, read about legislation in other countries and provide POSITIVE suggestions about how to get the job done instead of weening like a bunch of pussies.

First things first (after you read the links above). The organization's name? "Responsible Gun Ownership USA"? "Mudcatters For Peace In The Streets"... yes, I know it sucks... whaddya got???

As for a website down the road for discussion and getting the word out, ANYone here know ANYthing about websites? Anyone here got any expertise in law, politics, guns, anything related? Anyone know anything about gun laws in their own state that can be added to the new site's data base with regard to how the laws on the books are viewed by the state residents?

Right... I'll stop throwing out comments, ideas, suggestions. Surely after we all have read up and reflected, a proper brainstorming session can be organized.

Second order of business should be selecting a chairman. I suggest someone with... nah, fuck that... I nominate JiK. I would nominate others, including myself, but I think JiK would be a shoe-in simply because he seems intelligent and reasonable. Knows fuckin near everything too but that goes without sayin.

In the end... is ANY antigun nut here in Mudcat willing to put their money where their mouth is and work toward responsible gun ownership in the USA? Or are youse a bunch of weening pussies who don't understand the NRA and their objections to ANY legislation EVEN if they agree with it? Are youse willing to DO something?

IF you are right, FIGHT. If you don't wanna fight, shut the fuck up.