Sorry I hadn't meant to seem moderate.

Of course British industry was in a tailspin after the war. American capital got off its ass, and recapitalised in turns Europe, Japan, and now unforvivably the Peoples republic of China.

So the SS guards who did foryour family Mike, retired with a better pension than the guys like my Dad who liberated the death camps.

Remember how everybody wanted a a volkswagen and a grundig tape recorder in the 1950's. Whilst in Engand British Leyland factories managed with 60 year old track, and the upper classes fretted about about keeping their estates together and the ridiculous wages domestic servants were asking.

Doesn't mean to say it was right, Don. Doesn't mean to say that a government who colluded and speeded up this process was right, morally untouchable. Doesn'r mean it was inevitable.

As Sir John Harvey Jones said in the year Thatcher sent 28% of manufacturing jobs to the wall - most of those jobs were in good viable businesses.

lets just get its straight. Richard and I are singing from the same hymn sheet on this one. I suspect as a lawyer you get to see all the repossessions and fuck ups that Thatcher and her little short sighted shopping basket have perpetrated. You shouldn't sneer at a man for his profession.