i lived through it and my understanding of what happened is presumably very different from yours. we cannot both be right -and maybe in some cases there is no absolute truth. but sometimes we can look back and -with hindsight- agree that events that were presented to us in a certain way were not telling the whole story. with the efforts of determined people as in the current case, or for example those jailed for the bombings in birmingham and guildford- a bit more truth can be revealed and we all have to reassess our opinions. and then ask why we were lied to and who benefited from those lies and distortions.

no, i wasn't making any comparisons with wilson and callaghan years-that would be another thread. and of course it's always been them and us - it's just that they have won so i am a bit cross. and it was all part of the plan from back then to shock the world into accepting a vicious and anti-democratic plan for the benefit of the owners of global capital. all came from friedman, hayek and them chicago boys, you know - not very nice men. and thatcher.