MtheGM; My point, meant, as usually, to be at least a bit droll, was that Steve was tossing a lot of points as if they were undisputable facts, when there was in fact, room for quite a bit of debate.

Given that, in the US, at least until his recent and unfortunately early demise, our most prominent Atheist was Christopher Hitchens, who had been on the talk show circuit for years, and was much more entertaining than Richard Dawkins.

As to Hu Jintao, hating the evil, atheistic Communist China is a cottage industry for many on the religious right here in the US, and being a political leader, is seen as much more of a threat to the Flag, Mom, and Apple Pie than Dawkins.