"there are situations where we might want someone dead it's for civilized people to "just say no"..."
Bobert, 2 posts back
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This emotive use of the word 'civilised' constantly crops up on all the [many] threads on this topic. As I have remarked here before, it is unfairly used with the utmost tendentiousness.

'Civilisation' as a concept goes back to the ancient Egyptians and Mesapotamians in the Western World, to ancient India, China, Japan, &c, farther east. Capital punishment in some form was part of every one of these societies: its justice and probity were not even questioned till extremely recently [late C19 at earliest]. So are users of this word in this emotive and tendentious fashion really denouncing the Greeks, Romans, Hebrews, Chinese [cont p 94] as uncivilised?

Don't be so silly.

~M~