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Thread #147152   Message #3410875
Posted By: GUEST,Phil B
27-Sep-12 - 10:01 AM
Thread Name: A Little Free Advise for Independent CD
Subject: RE: A Little Free Advise for Independent CD
www.youtube.com/watch?v=99ZoTiJwQsM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5xAd_uMpHM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_0q_0FayMw
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sue_c9ZcwXA

For anyone at all interested, these are the first few days of the new Show of Hands album in progress. There's a section on some of the mics here. They are a mixture of the studios and mine.
The environment depicted is not soundproof or treated in any way. It was chosen for its ambience and being a nice place to work. We did a week there. We analysed and sampled the natural acoustic to reproduce it when we moved on to the actual studio subsequently. It is very much in eveidence on many tracks on the album.
The 4th clip is in my attic studio which is only semi soundproof and not treated in any way.

All of this stuff is far too subjective to get into any argument. As far as I'm concerned, there are no rules I'm afraid. Its horses for courses. I just must make a couple of observations though.

£1000 will buy anyone a bundle of software/computer/mic and audio interface which is more than good enough to make a studio quality album. I mentored a young artist two years ago who did that. Her new album is excellent by any yardstick. Self recorded and self produced.

As far as I'm concerned, being able to have lovely expensive mics is great but I couldn't afford them for the first 25 years of my career. I used Paul Whites (Sound on Sound) ancient and well tried technique of an SM58 with a Tandy PZM behind it. It still works and sometimes I do it to re-prove it to myself.

Three very physically similar large diaphram mics in my personal posession are

Neiman TL102. Was about £900 but has now come down radically in price. Can be found for as little as £500 now.

A&T 4040. £350 ish

SE-X1. Can be found for £160/70.

At the moment, I'm loving the SE mic and am reaching for it for guitars and mandolines before either of the other two. It doesn't have the bottom end response of the other two but is utterly transparent and crystal clear at the top end. Good value methinks. Ce'st la Vie!!