Don, the thread hasn't got a chance when it is conceived in such a dishonest manner. Dick hates Michael, Jack and me and he knows that two of us are here as well as on The Session. He brings his spats over here when he isn't getting anywhere over there because he knows that, at least, Michael isn't here. He's done it before. Try 23 September 2011, the thread "Is English traditional music rubbish?" And, to be honest, this topic has been done to death here, there and everywhere that traditional music is discussed in any case. There will be older threads I'm sure if you wish to resurrect one. I can't be arsed to look.