Yes, I did need to apologize because I was absolutely wrong... point blank. I said something I feel but cannot PROVE. Even if he was a saint, it doesn't say what he would do in future.

ollaimh... I agree with your take on Martin and The Little Guy. If Martin had Chrétien's skills and stayed in power (still doubtful, I think) we would be in far better shape. Of course, I can't prove that either... maybe it's just that I loathe The Hair.