Dave, I think Eliza probably meant those who have praised JS on this thread, ('blown smoke up his arse', to quote Guest Martin's delightful turn of phrase) who were unaware of his apparent behaviour. I certainly had no idea about any of the stuff he's reputed to have got up to, and there's no reason why, in view of the conspiracy of silence which seems to have been conducted by his peers, anyone outside 'Show-Biz' should or would have known.