You were not the only one supporting that view, Liz. So don't think it is to have dig at you. It isn't. It is just to point out that some people believe that those who put themselves at risk , such as these young people did, must be in some way culpable. There are umpteen examples of people spouting the same rubbish but you said it quite sucinctly just above.

I went on to say, as I recall, that if you behaved in a certain way, you were inviting trouble.

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BUT women need to get real, need to become far more responsible again, stop acting like hookers

Sum up your views quite nicely. Need I say any more?

As to trying to lower you in the eyes of many - I have absolutley no need to do so. People have already made up their minds and nothing any of us say or do will alter their opinions of either of us. I do think you need to get over the fact that not everyting is about you though. There are a number of people with the same wretched view.

Cheers

DtG