Howard I think you only make my point for me. Wha tI Was saying and maybe didn't make clear, is that the English, generally and over all 'classes' are very politically naieve, if not indeed ignorant. You'll not get any more intelligent political debate from a rich man in a wine bar than you will from a union worker in his pub. For instance just a couple of years ago we were ALL very angry at the revelation that approx 60% of MP's were fraudently claiming expenses, and the pitifully few prosecutions only added to the Fraud. just 9 months into the Condem gov't's hate campain against the out of work and the Disabled and hate crimes against those groups had risen by 36%, and the government fraud largely forgotten A hate campaign conduced ny Conservatives and Lib Dems alike and added to by Labour through their silence.
That hate crime has now risen by almost 60% and The biggest reason for that is largely ignorant British electorate, en masse, reading and listening to government run media (and vice versa) Who haven't the inteligence to look up the facts and find out that nearly All the Govt 'facts'are 99% lies. It's Nazi propoganda happening all over again to make us think those LEAST responsible caused the recession. I'm middle class by the way