Nobody has suggested that any of these thigs exist at present - the argument is that "any acceleration of that situation will bring them to the point of starvation (and there is no knowing where this will end now the Israeli leadership has decided to climb into bed with the ultra nationalists) -"
The collection of such information to be used against any population is obscene AND IT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE - NOTABLY AGAINST THE JEWISH PEOPLE
This conversation is now over
Jim Carroll