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Thread #147391   Message #3434333
Posted By: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
10-Nov-12 - 03:18 PM
Thread Name: BS: Alternative to Science??
Subject: RE: BS: Alternative to Science??
Fixed typo....easier to understand....:

Oh man....The protestant and Catholic 'religions' based in Europe, as either the co-adaptation of the Roman Empire, or as the revolt from it (Protestant Movement), is the model for what we in the Western 'Civilized' world understand as a 'religion'.....this carries with it a tremendous amount of how we view reality, how we modeled (or rebelled), our governments, political systems, points of view(of right or wrong), and pretty much all of how we see reality..religious or political, and even physical matter and properties. It has affected our science as well. This is all true.
The study of the shroud, and their findings, DO NOT endorse ANY religion, sect, or political system..other than, if the findings are indeed true, could (would) alter our perception of 'reality'. Being as the study opened up a new field of science, that which is consistent with quantum physics, 'string theory', 'membrane theory' and how they work...and guess what?..they use MUSIC (and harmonics)to describe how it all works and to describe our relationship to the dimensions...and there are MORE than the ONE we see!..FACT!!
When Beethoven spoke about this, he used these words: "The vibrations on the air are the breath of God speaking to man's soul. Music is the language of God. We musicians are as close to God as man can be. We hear his voice, we read his lips, we give birth to the children of God, who sing his praise. That's what musicians are."

Now YOU might be the ones, because of YOUR concepts of 'God' and YOUR experiences with 'religions', not even know what HE is talking about, and I find it rather arrogant(if I do say), to refute what he is saying about that, when HE is the one who experienced it, not you, and your concepts of 'God' through the 'religious looking glass' (or anti-religious looking glass), that screwed up YOUR perceptions of a greater reality, and say he is wrong..don't know what he's talking about, and was in some sort of brain-lock to express exactly what it really was... when MAYBE HE DID....and he spoke it plainly...and you just can't conceive it!
I'm sure the reality and dimension(S) we live in are really very simple to understand and it is US that screw it up, believing those who wish to exploit us, by 'keeping us down'....ever consider that?

Beethoven was, or may have been reaching into a yet unknown dimension, or area that he musically described...and was considered a genius...maybe his 'genius' was merely the ability to 'go there'...
All this happens to be consistent with the dimensional findings spoken about on the video .

Why that should bother you does not speak well of your ability to grasp outside your little boxes! You are more hung up into your fear and loathing of religion, than a proselytizer is of their religious point of view....and the cool thing, (that a lot of blind people don't get, is that Jesus was NOT about founding, or continuing a 'religion'. Maybe he was talking about a reality that we all live in, and how to access it more easily for the reason of better LOVING each other...which in turn opens up greater access!!........and it has NOTHING to do with 'religion'!....The manipulators created that shit!.....and you are still feeling the effects of their venomous bite!

That being said...it's time for a little good harmonica music from
Carolyn Wonderland on Imus....(Notice how music speaks to both sides) . Funny thing about that.....could it be a higher form of communication???...from a higher place??....or you could run away because Imus is on Fox??
Whose cares!...Oh, and Beethoven was not so far off, at all!!!
Jeez, I understood it...and completely agree!

GfS