The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #148169   Message #3440595
Posted By: Dave the Gnome
22-Nov-12 - 03:12 PM
Thread Name: BS: US Thanksgiving--Debate
Subject: RE: BS: US Thanksgiving--Debate
You really do take the biscuit, Liz. From your post further up this thread -

Please, by all means, do POST these lies and misinformation of which you speak, Dave....

Then from further still up the thread.

I'm helping to arrange the visits...dimwit...many of the pages are all linked up 'behind the scenes' sharing info, sharing posters, sharing ideas and phone calls and emails....Double Dimwit!!

Misinformation. I think I can conclusively say I am not a dimwit of the single or double variety.

Now, why don't you go back to your 'Let's see how I can make Lizzie look EVEN smaller than I already think I've got people to view her as!' room, and practice with The Turnip....

Absolute outright lie. I have no such campaign and I have no idea what I should be doing with a turnip. Could you please explain.

Continuing your smear tactics -

I could, had I wanted to, have brought out the fact that you, at the very start of that thread on Savile were distraught with unhappiness that such a 'wonderful' man had died.

I really, really wish you would, Liz. If you can find anything like what you report in my post to that thread please post it here. What I actually said, and it is not difficult to look up, was

"Listening to Tony Blackbutrn on Pick of the Pops earlier today and realising what a huge difference DJs made to my generation. JS was one of the best and most influential."

How on earth could you consider I thought thought he was a wonderful man and was distraught with unhappiness when I just considered him to be one of the best and most influential DJs of my generation? I consider Adolph Hitler was one of the most influential leaders of the 20th century. Would you say I thought he was a wonderful man?

Lies and misinformation. Smear tactics, Bullying at it's worse simply because I disagree with you.

Last easily addressable post. You say

in the recent thread about Saville you chose to put a link in to a thread about rape. It had *nothing* to do with the thread in hand. ALL you wanted to do was try to get people to see me, yet again, in a bad light, by trying to infer that I said rape victims bring their crimes on themselves.

I brought up the link to show that you once posted that girls who wear skimpy clothes and throw themselves at men have to take some blame when those men react in a sexual manner. You make that blatantly clear in the thread concerned. In the 60s and 70s girls wore skimpy clothes and threw themselves at people like Saville. I disagreed with you at the time. Still do. Your hypocrisy in then saying that these girls were the innocent victims is quite breathtaking. There was no other reason behind my post. Other than in your own imagination. Once again I disagree with you so I must be put down with lies, misinformation and scorn. And BTW - Why bring up the thread about Saville if you are so against bringing things from other threads?

Finally, just on this bit I am sure, you say -

I have nothing further to say to you.

I am pretty sure this is yet another lie as you have often said it before and continued your relentless tirade unashamedly in the same post. I would be more than happy for you to prove me wrong by simply allowing me my opinion. Even when it does not conform with yours.

Cheers

DtG