John MacKenzie, I think everyone agrees with Lizzie's basic idea, that Native Americas have been and are treated like shit. Unfortunately, that's not what this thread is about. It's about Lizzie telling everyone in a rude fashion that we're not aware of it and that we don't care about it. It's about Lizzie assuming that all of us are so ignorant that we think Thanksgiving was started by the Pilgrims and is nothing except a symbol of genocide. It started because Lizzie was inappropriately doing these things in a thread about Thanksgiving and a moderator moved her posts. So all the posts that are about Lizzie instead of about the abuse of Native Americans are actually more pertinent than Lizzie's posts, which are based on incorrect assumptions about and rude communications with the people she's talking to.

There isn't much point in having a discussion if we don't have a starting point we can all live with, and most of us find Lizzie's starting point untenable. If you want to have a discussion about the bad treatment of Native Americans, I'm afraid it will have to start with something other than hurling unwarranted insults at the participants and making incorrect assumptions about their ethical stances and level of knowledge.