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Thread #148075   Message #3448857
Posted By: Amos
07-Dec-12 - 03:35 PM
Thread Name: BS: Afterlife new exciting proof?
Subject: RE: BS: Afterlife new exciting proof?
If the vast literature on OOB and NDEs were to be perused, you would find that many of these experiences happen to perfectly sober-minded, plain-speaking citizens who do not consider them religious in any sense of the word.

Jung made the observation that the psyche goes beyond space and time. This is either true or not. To put it another way you (an individual) are either a non-material entity experiencing material existence, or you are a material entity whose circuitry occasionally creates spiritual delusions.

If the former is true, all of the documented cases of unusual phenomena--including telepathic moments, OOBs, NDEs, and more common things such as understanding itself, the appetite for justice, aesthetics, intuitive perception and so on, are fairly readily explained. These are byproducts of a spiritual sense.

If, on the other hand you are actually no more than the meat-bag that wears your clothes, these things have no ready explanation, or one of really excessive complexity.

Making a big issue out of the fact that the literature is predominately anecdotal really misses the point by a country mile; given the implications, what else COULD it be? The difference between meat and spirit is exactly that the human spirit is not bound by the entropic, redundant, blind laws of mass and energy in time and space. The complaint is like rejecting apples because they do not taste enough like hot dogs. These things come from a different part of the jungle altogether.

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