Without taking sides, as my ambivalence over all this is a matter of record thruout this thread [& indeed this forum], I feel bound to point out to Jim that, as a tactic in any discussion, the provision of a 'quotable quote', no matter from whom, lwt alone someone of whom few have ever even heard, is no sort of knock-down argument in any shape or form.

Must do better -- or shall not go you know where!

~M~

In interests of fairness, googled this Marya Hornbacher that Jim quoted, before posting this. Find from wikipedia that her claim to fame is having suffered from both anorexia & bulimia, & somehow boondoggled some poor publisher into printing her lucubrations on the subject. My my, what an impressive authority for a 'quotable quote', to be sure!