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Thread #148498   Message #3449739
Posted By: sciencegeek
09-Dec-12 - 10:00 AM
Thread Name: BS: Pearl Harbor Day / December 7
Subject: RE: BS: Pearl Harbor Day / December 7

there is great truth in the observation, "strong fences make good neighbors"...

the exploration/exploitation of the Americas was pretty haphazard... nations sent out ships & claimed everything in sight (and out of sight - but hoped to be there) that they thought they could get away with.

Native peoples were merely one more obstacle to get around.

The result in North America was a lot of land grants from England, territorial claims by the French and Dutch coupled with trappers/trade companies and settlers moving into new areas... and I think everyone had their own idea about who controlled what.

By 1800, there was a better idea about what was out there... now it was a matter of establishing claims that would stand... for the white population at least.

There was tension between Britain and the newly formed USA about where the boundary between the states and Canada actually was... it took a number of treaties to come up with the present line...

add to that the number of British supporters who left the US for Canada after the Revolution that agitated against the US. There was a fight brewing that had little to do with what the concerned the rest of the US. The border issue was a pawn rather than a rook or bishop in the "grand game of chess" between Britain & America... imho

I do agree that American shipbuilding and seamanship did itself proud... if waging war is something to take pride in.