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Thread #148498 Message #3450248
Posted By: Little Hawk
10-Dec-12 - 04:26 PM
Thread Name: BS: Pearl Harbor Day / December 7
Subject: RE: BS: Pearl Harbor Day / December 7
Oh, yes, DO try to get it right, Don! ;-)
Both the Americans and the Japanese had been trying to turn the Pacific into their own "pond" ever since Admiral Togo won at Tsushima and the USA took the Phillipines in 1898. They were 2 great naval empires, both trying to dominate one ocean. Old story.
And we all know the Japanese acted brutally in China and did unspeakable things there. This is no news to anyone.
And there's no frickin' way the Japanese could have successfully invaded the USA West Coast, and they never realistically contemplated doing so. If they had done so...by some miracle of misguided hubris...it would not have gone well for them.
And they knew exactly how much damage they had inflicted on the US fleet at Pearl...right down to every last ship they sank or damaged. How much? Not enough, that's how much. Plenty of damage, yes...pretty spectacular...but still not enough. They missed the carriers that day and they didn't damage the oil tank farm or the essential repair facilities (drydocks). They did one heck of a job on the battleships and the airfields...but that still wasn't enough.
As for the old "sucker punch" thing...that is the whole principle of war. If you're going to attack at all, you try to do it unexpectedly. You take the target by surprise if at all possible. To do otherwise would be foolish in the extreme. Just ask the Israelis about that. Surprise is THE most essential factor in a successful attack on a well-defended military base such as Pearl.
Now, let's waste the rest of our day arguing with each other about all this stuff, Don... ;-) Oh, boy. Fun. It's too bad one can't get paid for doing this.