What strikes me about these conversations and debates, including the current dialog between you, Ron and Joe, is how your different experiences have colored your reactions to people using RUS.

I don't have a lot of experience with "sings" and "song circles." Most of my singing has been singing alone on the front porch, late at night.

It kinda tickles me to read the dialog between the two of you. My experience of both of you is based solely on about 10 years of that remarkably musically intimate weekend of the Getaway. I experience both of you as supportive, inclusive and egalitarian, and experience both of you as delighting in the participatory experience.