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Thread #59418   Message #3453869
Posted By: Little Hawk
18-Dec-12 - 01:46 PM
Thread Name: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
Hmmm. Okay, I think I'm at least partially getting the drift of what you're talking about, Amos. Let's start with this part...

"The confusions that cause solidification of beingness"

...meaning incarnation in a physical body, I presume? That limiting one's being to a particular frame in a particular time(line) and place?

"are rich territory for research and discovery"


"but I am confident that the elements I mentioned are key among them"

Hmmm. So it is through Misownership and Misidentification that we become incarnated in physicality? Yes, I think I could give that some consideration. We are as strangers in a strange land here, aren't we? Cast down, as it were, into Earthly limitation when we could be roaming free through the Cosmos...and even beyond it.

"and that anyone suffering the yoke of persistent, non-elective attachment to a physical form is heir to them, amongst other woes."

Definitely! In the East they often assert that this entire existence is a form of Illusion, and they may be right. This, however, would call into question your previous assertion that "reality exists". Does it? Or does it just seem to exist? I'm not saying or implying that I have the answer to that...just asking the question.

"The first error is identification of self with some sort of object, such as Chongo."

Ah! Well, I don't identify myself with Chongo, so I'm not making that error. Chongo identifies himself with Chongo, I identify myself with myself. Chongo's existence derives from mine in some way, yes, just as a book's existence derives from its author's, but I do not in any way identify myself with Chongo. I see him as entirely different to me. I do, however, feel for him when he's in a difficult spot, since I am in a sense related to him. I could say that about many individuals I know.

My only errors of identification with self, I think, are those that pertain to my view of myself, not my view of Chongo. If, for example, I feel a lack of confidence in some aspect of my life, that is probably an error that sets me back in various ways.

The first error is identification of self with some sort of object, such as Chongo. :D