If you wish to play the statistics game that's fine.

Read and digest the FBI figures for 2011.

Total murders 12,664 of which 8,583 were committed using guns. This is not a complete picture as Florida and Alabama presented no figures.

So, the above is the best case scenario if you assume that there were no murders in 2011 in the "Stand your ground" state and Alabama.

Since Mississippi, next door to Alabama has three times the national average, one can assume that a low number is unlikely, which may be why their murder rates are hidden.

In the UK total murders 2011 was 564 of which 39 were committed using guns, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

Don T.