Come on "folkies". I can hardly believe what I'm reading here. Sure, it's easy to find a reason NOT to give. That's mostly what I'm hearing here. We all seem to be looking for a way for someone else to pay the way. Ads and such. Thats fine for later,cause that TAKES time. Right now all you have to do is visit your bank and arrange an automatic payment to MudCat, or arrange the same with your credit card company. Arent most of you now paying your ISP with an automatic credit card account? Just do the same for MudCat. Stop worrying about hackers and such if the MudCat says it's server is secure, have a little faith and tell them to take a little each month. Now, come on folks, if we will try as hard to find a way to do this as we are trying to find a way not to, we WILL succeed. **** MudCat Now and Forever.****