Don F, yesterday I highlighted an example of Ake's own words being selectively edited and thrown back.
It was done to justify labelling him.
Why do you try so hard to do that?
How does it forward the debate?

This thread was about the UK gay marriage debate.
My position was in favour, but that the deeply held convictions of opponents should be respected and given a fair hearing.
It emerged that the proponents here do not even know what the objections are, which really makes my point.

The causes of being gay are no part of the debate outside this thread.
I think that GFS is wrong, and that the accumulating evidence will eventually make his position untenable, but it is not yet proven.
Why does it make you angry?

STIs are not part of the debate outside this thread.
Ake's statements about it are factual, and the proof is in the stats.
If he were a homophobe he would be happy to see them die.
Instead he calls for interventions to save them; frequent testing and discouraging unsafe practises.
If my son was MSM, I would put exactly those pressures on him, not from homophobia but from love.